Oct. 1, 2024

The Heart: Key to Vibrancy and the Emperor's Role in the Metal Season with Dr. Francis Gatt

The Heart: Key to Vibrancy and the Emperor's Role in the Metal Season with Dr. Francis Gatt

The heart speaks the language of health, and trust us, it has a lot to say! Today, we’ll decode what your heart (aka the emperor/ress) is communicating through the lenses of both Eastern and Western medicine. With special guest, Dr. Francis Gatt, who...

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The heart speaks the language of health, and trust us, it has a lot to say!
Today, we’ll decode what your heart (aka the emperor/ress) is communicating through the lenses of both Eastern and Western medicine.
With special guest, Dr. Francis Gatt, who will share her expertise on the Heart/Shen connection. She’ll explain how our bodies respond to a range of emotions, from joy and love to the pain of heartbreak and loss.

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Hello everybody, and welcome to the Language of Healing. You're

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tuning in on w FOURWN dot com and Talk four TV.

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This is the Women for Women Network and where we're

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sharing all sorts of goodness for your heart, soul, body, mine.

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And today we're diving in a little bit more into

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that seasonal shift. And you know, cycles are always happening,

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changes are always happening, So it's really a matter of

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how we respond and take that in how we move forward,

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and you know, sometimes just a little note when things

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are cycling and shifting and changing, sometimes we want to

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be better or grow and learn from our mistakes or

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learn from some of the situations that are coming up

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for us in life. And at times it can feel

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like we're just spinning and recycling and oh, here we

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go again, this time is happening like this again, But

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it's not so much of a circle. We're like always

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constantly spiraling and we're always evolving. So even if you're

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revisiting something, it has a different perspective. So now we're

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in the fall season in the northern hemisphere, of course,

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and this is naturally a time where we go inward reflection.

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Oftentimes people at this time of year will reflect and say, WHOA,

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where did the year go? And have I done what

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I wanted to do this year? Like where am I at?

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You know, maybe you set some kind of intentions or

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goals at the beginning of the year. I personally feel

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like this time of year is the fresh start because

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of that inward look and retrospect, and it's helpful to

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look back at where we've been to help us move

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forward to where we want to go in the future.

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Last week we talked about the metal element living in

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that full metal freedom and what that means. That means

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that fall season is related to the metal element, which

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represents things like resilience, strength, emotional stability. It's the time

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for emotional maturity and some things that might come up

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right now in the emotional realm could be related to

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sadness and grief. And I mean, here in Canada, I

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can feel the temperatures are changing. There's a bit of

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a chill in the air. It's like that metal coldness,

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that rigidity. And today we're welcoming in the heart a

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little bit of the fire aspect to help smooth and

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warm some of those harsher aspects. And yeah, really check

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into what our heart has to say, and it has

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so much to say. We won't get all of it

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through today. Well, let's do our best. And of course

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we have a very special guest with us today that

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we will meet soon and our trustee sidekick, the pipe Man.

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Let's bring them on. Welcome in with a big, warm heart,

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big hugs. Hello, the ultimate Ultimate metal festival. You're deep

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in festival season. Pipe Mentor the King of all festivals. Hey,

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speaking of the Emperor today, which is the heart. By

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the way, you're kind of like the Emperor of your world.

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You know what's so funny about that? I just packed

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a shirt from that for the next festival that I'm

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going to, and it is by one of the vendors

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at the festivals, and it is the Emperor, the terrort

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card the Emperor.

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So it's pretty funny you should say that.

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I was also testing you to see if while you

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were talking to the beginning of the show, if you

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were looking at the camera or you were looking at

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us backstage as I was sitting there diving when you

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were saying diving in. So I was sitting there going

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like that, like I can't drop my other hand, or

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alse I drop the mic, and not in a good way.

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But I was diving in as.

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You were saying that, and you didn't even break character.

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So you were looking at the camera.

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Yeah, focused here, good move.

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But yeah, I just got back from some musical therapy.

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I'm a big I'm a big believer that music is

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the best therapy. In fact, when we were locked down

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had no live music. I think that's why people are

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some mad and depressed because they didn't have that outlet.

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You know, we have things that go on in our life,

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matters of the heart, and I think a lot of

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times music helps with that, not only for the musician

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but also the listeners. So I had something go on,

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and I left that and went to first riot Fest,

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which I might have talked about a little last week

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because I only got to one day of it. But

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Slayer played for the first time in five years, and

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I went to their pit, and I got every bit

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of emotion I had in and left it in that pit.

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And people don't understand that about the mosh pit, like

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they think it's about going in and you know, being

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tough for hurting and Maymond. People know it's a healthy

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way to get out your aggression instead of on somebody else.

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And I'll tell you how good that therapy was.

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So then I leave that festival and I'm going to

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Louisville for Louder than Life. And in the airport waiting

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for the plane, I had my AirPods plugged in so

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I could charge them so I could watch the movie

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on the plane on the way to the festival, And

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what happened somebody next to me lovely manners of people

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in twenty twenty four decides to pull, didn't ask, didn't

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say anything while not looking, pull my plug out and

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plug his back and plug his in. Okay, now I

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didn't notice at first because I was actually on the

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phone on my pods and he just unplugs it like

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while I'm not looking for hit Slayer the night before

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and was in that mash pit because all I did

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was look at him like a look on my face,

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like really, didn't say a word, ignored it, didn't get arrested,

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which was probably might have happened had I not been

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in that Slayer pit, because all those emotions that I

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left in the pit would have been inside me. Plus

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him touching my things without asking and invading my space.

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Could have ended badly.

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Without music therapy with M I made it to louder

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than life instead of the uh, you know, Chicago police

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station maybe, And then later in life was cool because

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here's another thing. Okay, So one type of person that

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when there are matters of the heart that are negative,

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I dive into work too, because you go into a

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different mode when you're working, So A you change your mindset,

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B you don't have time to think about those other

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things that are bothering you. So while I was sitting

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or doing interviews, I think like we had by the way,

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I came back to Florida. I'm in Florida today because

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I had to get away from the hurricane. Like it

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didn't hit got hit not here, not here, but it

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did in Louisville.

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We had.

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The second day of lard in life was canceled because

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we were in a hurricane. Okay, And but on those

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other days, like I did so many interviews that I

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had no time to think about anything negative in life.

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And because of that, it gives you more of a

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euphoric feeling that helps you to cope with mares of

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the heart. Everybody does it differently. That's my way, that's

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a lot of people's ways.

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Now.

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There's very much different ways to handle those things, some

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healthier than others, some not so much. But our expert

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guest will probably give us even more insight. She'd probably

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give me crap too, for like doing the whole avoidance thing.

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But that's okay.

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Uh.

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But I think we should bring her on and let's

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talk about her spin on matters of the heart and

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anything else that she wants to talk about.

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Mm hmm. Yeah, let's bring her on doctor Francis Gatt.

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Yay, oh so we got doctor Francis Gatt.

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Hello.

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Yes, yeah, we're very lucky. Do you have any thoughts,

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I mean.

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Thoughts I knew she.

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I knew she as you were talking to you and

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you were saying, oh, I put myself into my work.

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And on a Human Loud podcast there was some talk

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about heartbreak and one of the things that came up

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is that your brain becomes very motivated. That there's a

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part of your brain that gets triggered with heartbreak that

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gets you motivated to do more stuff to get going,

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typically to work out or get very physical, to become

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more attractive to your two possible mate. Maybe. So that's

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interesting that you kind of work through it. You're like, Okay,

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I'm just gonna keep pushing through because there's this sense

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of motivation that the brain kind of triggers. I thought

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that was kind of interesting that you set up.

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You know what else is interesting is one of the

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bands I interviewed, the lead singers also a therapist.

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Okay, very cool, we even talked therapy.

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Yeah, so we even talked about it in the interview.

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I don't think he thinks my way is a healthy

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way personally, but I think it's different for everybody.

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I think healthy way is not.

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Like a cookie cutter thing, you know. I think everybody's different.

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And I know that the other people affected by the

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same scenarios talking about they're the females in my family

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and they and then I have my son and my family.

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My son and I were just talking recently and it's

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like he deals the same way.

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They, on the other hand, are like immersing.

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In their negativity to the point where after I left,

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there were scenarios that went on that I think were

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not healthy. And I think me personally doesn't mean it's right.

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What's right for different people, but me personally, immersing yourself

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in that negativity only creates more negative and people blow

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up and get into fights and get into arguments and

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lose their crap. And you know, that's why when I

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look at the way I handle, I'm like, oh, mine

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might be the healthier way, because those results weren't healthy

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and mine. I'm here on this radio show and I'm fine, Okay.

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I think a lot of people like the physicality of

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moving through things, like you're dancing, you're singing, you're participating

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in the nauch fit. And for females maybe there's a

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lot of talk therapy that goes on where sometimes even

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with males and we talk about you know, hardships, trauma, heartbreak,

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they tend to want to move through it physically, with

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the physical aspect. But that's not you know, that's not

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linear either. Everybody's very different, but I think everybody can benefit.

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That is a great point though, because I do think

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I'm a big believer in men and women speak different languages,

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and that doesn't just mean verbally our brains.

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For me, right, females thoughts cross the corpus. Male thoughts

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typically run front back, So the way that we process

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thoughts feeling are inherently different.

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Typically, what do you have to say, doctor me.

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Retard to gat Yeah, I mean there's like what I

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think about is that either way that energy wants to

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move and it inspires us because like that say heartbreak

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for example, or loss or even moments of joy, like

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it's like it moves the energy, you know, and one

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way or the other. Like, so I think it is

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about developing healthy boundaries and stuff like that. I think

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it's very fascinating how men and women do process things differently,

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and our brain structure is different and even you know,

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from a Chinese medicine perspective, everything is yin yong chi blood.

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There's like those are the most simplest form of how

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we look at the body or how we approach life

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is Are they balanced? Are they?

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Is one higher than the other. But like women are

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more blood, you know, which means like more material, more yin,

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more deep introspective emotion, feeling, so that it's much easier

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to get into that space where men are more governed

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by chia, which is immaterial. It's like it's like air movement,

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you know. So yeah, it's like a constant dance between

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between the two. We obviously have both of them. But yeah,

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so maybe you release your stress through mashing or punching something,

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you know, where women will like want to dive into

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like the talking and the feeling and the crying and

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and then I don't think it's right or wrong, it's

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just a different way of energy because if it gets stuck,

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like this is also a point where those sometimes those

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emotions get stuck repressed, and that's where like things like

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depression show up, and I think heartbreak can show similar

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symptoms of depression. So it's like having an outlet is healthy.

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And I think there's different ways people process that too,

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because of the fact that you know, some people like

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myself that maybe don't live in it, they never you

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never have that trauma of it holding it in because

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you are working through it. You're just not working through

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it outwardly, okay. And there's a difference. And perfect example

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I was thinking of while you're talking is they talk

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about the five stages of grief and I was just

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talking about this with my son today and like, basically,

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I go straight to acceptance. Now, that doesn't mean What

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people don't understand is that doesn't mean you don't go

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through all the cycles. It's just like bam, bam bam.

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I'm not going to spend a lot of time on

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these negative ones and then just go through the acceptance.

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Because men always want to move on.

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We want to solve the problem, you know, And like

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you said, women they want to talk about the problem.

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Men don't want to talk about the prom We just

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want to solve the problem, move on. And so on

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the other hand, the other side that doesn't process that

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way doesn't understand the way I'm talking about either, because

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a lot of times the people that do it the

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opposite way, They recycle those five stages of grief over

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and over and over again and so again.

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Neither way is wrong. It's what's right for you.

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It's like I've told my daughters several times, you need

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coping skills for things. They don't have to be my

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coping skills, but find the one that works for you.

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Like everybody has their coping skills. It's not cookie cutter.

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We can all three of us generalize, but everybody's an individual.

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What we're saying about men and women all men and women.

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Either yeah, absolutely, yeah, Well and mean, I know, just

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from like a little side note, because I've known you

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for some time and I know you have been through

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lots in your life and the way that you handle it,

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and you know that's your very metal like you definitely

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you know, cultivate, cultivate that strength and resilience. And it's admirable.

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And thank you for joining us and being here and

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sharing your two cents, especially on the Women's Network, because

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it's nice to have that other perspective.

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I agree, I agree, Like I always say, as I

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was saying this to somebody recently, if I want know

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about women. I don't ask about ask men. And then

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I think I told one of my daughters recently, same thing, like,

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if you want to know about men, don't ask a woman.

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Like it's like you should ask the source because we

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can speculate. I can think I know as much as

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I want to think I know about women, but I've

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never had to walk in life as a woman, so

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I can't really one hundred percent know.

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It's all just a guess.

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Yeah, And just like you're the guy that took your

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your plug out, you know, like everyone's coming into life

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from it with different like just different playing field, you know.

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And and I see that as a very metal quality too,

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like rude, harsh, you know a little bit.

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He's lucky didn't get strangled with my cord, because that's

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what I was really thinking.

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Yeah, oh my goodness, no, you handled that well. So

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what else, doctor Gatt, like happens in our body when

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we're going through Okay, so there's like the heart and

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the shen connection. Maybe you want to talk a little

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bit about that, because yew, the heart is seen as

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like the emperor or the empress. It's like what governs,

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Like the beat of the heart is what sets the

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pace of earth life, you know, and let's hear more

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about that.

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Yeah, so with the shun a little bit. Yeah, with

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the spirit mind, it's your consciousness. It's your everyday mental

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well being, how you present yourself, your eye contact. It

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also kind of governs the other spirits, right, So there's

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five spirits, five elements, and the shun is the spirit

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of the heart, but there's all these four other spirits

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or like the metal element where it's the pull, the

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spirit of the lung, the breath, the corporeal soul, and

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anyway you has should up out. The shun in impresses

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on all of those other poor spirits. It's it's governing

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all of them. You know, when we talk about grape

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of the lung and we're talking about the poe, we

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can talk about heartbreak, we can talk about death, doesn't

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really matter. The poe is the first soul to show

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up during conception, and I guess it's always kind of

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trying to make it back to the ground, is how

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I see that. So when we look at uh situations

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where people are careless, suicidal or something like that, that's

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the poe, that's the lung, that's the metal element. So

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I think it's interesting that the shun is our everyday

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mentality but also governs all the other spirits, the intellect,

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the y, the g the will power. What am I

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best saying, Jerica, the hunt.

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The hun? Yeah, the ethereal and like yeah, like the

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hun and the poe kind of our opposite of each other,

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because the poe, the lung, the metal element is like

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the corporeal, it's like real and true, it's material, and

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then the hun, the liver, the anger or the generosity

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aspect of life is more ethereal, it's like immaterial.

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But E've been going back to, like you know, talking

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with Dean about male and female, yin and yong. The

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kidneys and the heart of a neat a really neat

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kind of relationship because the heart is that fire, right,

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that heat. The kidneys are that cooling water. So if

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you're getting fired up, like Dean is saying, this guy

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took his thing out, he could have got fired up,

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but he was cool. So when you're cool, your kidneys

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en is cooling the heart fires. I think that's where

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that term came from, playing it cool being cool, because

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we have enough vulture to cool that fire. And so

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there's your kind of basically and young of your whole body.

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So those two orients I feel like are really important.

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And in Western medicine, you know, your blood pressure is

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related to your urination, which is your kidney really to

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your bloodder and that balance is really important. Right. If

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you have high blood pressure, you're likely to have a

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red base and be hot like hot headed. Right, So

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that's what I think about when when you ask me

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about that.

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Thank you for explaining my ex.

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Wife is she either young or what.

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Bod pressure? But now it all makes sense?

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Yeah right, Well, I mean that could be like a

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quality of women, because you know, we get we do

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kind of you know, like yeah.

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There's our spleen. Our earth element females are always like

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that earth mothering, but they overthink, they over nurture. That's

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a pathology, right that sometimes they're overdoing the natural qualities

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to be mothering as well. And that's when you know

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the spleen is you know, out of balance there.

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Yeah, and then like too much too much earth can

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dampen the fire, you know, like you have a fire going,

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like too much water, too much earth will like quell

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the fire. So then you're like passionless. You're kind of

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running on empty. Maybe you're not connected purpose and then.

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You know you're all the wrong thing.

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Yeah, there's nothing grounded and rooting and oh that term

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another term like when you know, because the shen is

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connected to the heart and it's the spirit. But you

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know when someone says like I'm losing my mind, you know,

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or like losing it, it's like, yeah, because like the

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shen just isn't isn't resting in the heart. It's okay,

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it's filled with other trauma, worries.

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And memory right, memory of her hearsh hard remembers.

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That's why I think it's so important to get it

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out instead of living in it, you know, because then

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you're just building on top of each trauma over and

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over again, and that's when you explode.

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Yeah, people get fucking grief in heartbreak, whatever they get

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suck there and if you don't move through it, you

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just have to keep doing it for longer and over

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and over again. So you see, with death, so if

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somebody is the person who has to deal with all

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of the arrangements, you know, financials, that kind of stuff,

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they have to they're not grieving, they're doing a lot

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of that processing, going through getting paperwork done, and so

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their grieving tends to like last longer because they were

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too busy pushing through and getting all the stuff done

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that they needed to do. So they tend to have

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a longer grief profit and a little bit more difficult,

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I would say, because they didn't get to do it

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at the time.

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What's interesting about what you said, is there something else

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my son and I were talking about, is like, you know,

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you have to still get life done. So there's the

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people grieving that just stop everything. But that only makes

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to us, that only makes things worse because then when

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you finally start to come out, then you have a

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whole new set of problems because you weren't working, you

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weren't paying your bills, you weren't doing any of these things.

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Whereas how a man thinks is, man, I don't care

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what's happening in life. I can't stop working because otherwise

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I'll be homeless and what good will that do?

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And I see a lot of malls work through their trauma,

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literally work, They're going to work, they're overworking, and you know,

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sometimes it's because they're not dealing with it, or sometimes

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that's how they deal with it. Well, that's really individual.

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So I'll speak as a mail and where I first

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learned it. So I used to be in the investment business.

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And when I first got an investment business, the the

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the owner of the firm, would hold these morning meetings

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and one of the things he'd say every single day is,

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you know, basically, we all have baggage, we all have

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personal things going on, but this is your safe zone.

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So leave your baggage at the door. You can pick

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it up on the way out. But while you're working

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a those things can't bother you here, and including things

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like bill collectors, they can't reach you here. But also

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you what can solve your problems like stuff like that

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like bill collectors, and is making money. So if you

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by being in work and working, you're the problem the

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problems in that way, and it doesn't mean you're not

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having the problems or focusing on That's why I say

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pick it back up when you go home. So like

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you're trained as a male in most male dominated industries,

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you're trained to have zero feeling of personal life in work.

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That's your safe zone and your escape, and you're solving

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of problems. And then when you're done working, even being sick, okay,

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like when I'm sick, I don't even feel it while

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I'm working, Or I used to get migraines all the time.

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I didn't feel it at all while I was working

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after work was over, because then I gave myself permission

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to feel sick. And so it's not like you ignore

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it completely. It's that out in public, you don't put

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it out there, and in the things that could help

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you through it, you don't.

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And then when you're home, in the.

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Solitude by yourself, that's when you let the those things.

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Out to your benefit anything, right.

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Say that again?

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I think that's to your benefit. Yeah, you can work

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and become like compartmentalized.

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This is my word, my life, key word right there, compartmentalized.

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I do find that a lot of times that emotional

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beings can't compartment.

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Yeah, for many people. I think music, like going back

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to that, anybody could benefit from that during grief. I

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think that everybody has songs that they made them feel

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better or worse when their heartbreaking, when there's death whenever,

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and I feel like music can do.

460
00:28:47.000 --> 00:28:52.680
That for everybody, and so ultimate escape I agree.

461
00:28:53.000 --> 00:28:55.000
I agree that that it doesn't matter what it is

462
00:28:55.039 --> 00:28:57.119
and what you like. That's beside the point, but like

463
00:28:57.960 --> 00:29:01.400
everybody benefits and you're how do you receive that? I

464
00:29:01.440 --> 00:29:06.319
think I think the vibration of sound is essential for life. Yeah,

465
00:29:08.640 --> 00:29:09.079
the blood.

466
00:29:10.000 --> 00:29:13.640
So much of music comes from like moments of pain

467
00:29:14.000 --> 00:29:19.039
or joy or life experience. So it's it's literally resonating

468
00:29:20.079 --> 00:29:24.039
with you, right like someone else has been through, has

469
00:29:24.160 --> 00:29:28.400
walked this path before, and you know we might just

470
00:29:28.440 --> 00:29:32.920
be in it now. And you know, in like the

471
00:29:33.000 --> 00:29:41.079
Taoist uh alchemical acupuncture world, because it's like acupuncture and

472
00:29:41.160 --> 00:29:44.759
Chinese medicine is sort of like alchemy. You're you're turning

473
00:29:44.960 --> 00:29:49.960
something into something else. And music is a very like

474
00:29:50.200 --> 00:29:54.000
metal quality, Like it's in that category of activities that

475
00:29:54.079 --> 00:29:56.759
support the metal element, which is like the lungs, the

476
00:29:56.880 --> 00:30:00.160
large intestine, the grief, the sadness, you know, or or

477
00:30:00.359 --> 00:30:04.039
that harshness of life. But then you know, we bring

478
00:30:04.079 --> 00:30:07.039
in something like the heart, which is about joy and

479
00:30:07.079 --> 00:30:10.960
passion and purpose and like that warms those things. So

480
00:30:11.079 --> 00:30:14.519
when you're you know, a musician or when you're like

481
00:30:15.119 --> 00:30:20.480
in that moment, you're just like it's effortless flow that helps.

482
00:30:21.519 --> 00:30:23.599
Nice music therapy is amazing.

483
00:30:23.880 --> 00:30:27.240
I'll even take the music a step further from even

484
00:30:27.400 --> 00:30:30.000
talking to musicians and interviews and we talk about it

485
00:30:30.000 --> 00:30:33.240
all the time. So the key to a really good

486
00:30:33.319 --> 00:30:36.839
song is you write the song based on your own

487
00:30:36.960 --> 00:30:40.839
meaning and your own trauma or whatever it is, and

488
00:30:40.960 --> 00:30:44.079
the person listening to it can apply their own to it.

489
00:30:44.119 --> 00:30:47.640
So a good musician is not trying to make everybody

490
00:30:48.440 --> 00:30:53.000
experience the same thing. It's just experiencing it. That's the

491
00:30:53.079 --> 00:30:55.680
key in your own way and what meaning you put

492
00:30:55.759 --> 00:30:58.680
to it, you know, and how it affects your life

493
00:30:59.279 --> 00:31:04.279
and like it. Even if you talked about Taylor Swift,

494
00:31:04.559 --> 00:31:08.680
it's obvious that she gets through her heartbreaks with guys

495
00:31:09.359 --> 00:31:13.079
through writing her songs because pretty much every song is

496
00:31:13.119 --> 00:31:16.839
about every relationship she's ever had, you know, And that's

497
00:31:16.839 --> 00:31:21.000
how she, in my opinion, deals with that pain and

498
00:31:21.079 --> 00:31:23.119
produces something positive out of it.

499
00:31:26.200 --> 00:31:31.920
They would like yeah, or you know, like artists, Oh

500
00:31:32.000 --> 00:31:36.480
this is kind of interesting, you know, like artists musicians included,

501
00:31:37.160 --> 00:31:38.920
might get really creative.

502
00:31:40.119 --> 00:31:43.759
In the night time. Maybe this will go a little

503
00:31:43.799 --> 00:31:47.039
like off, but you know, because we're if we're talking

504
00:31:47.079 --> 00:31:50.799
about like the heartbreak and the kind of tougher parts

505
00:31:50.839 --> 00:31:53.559
of life, that's like the po the metal element and

506
00:31:53.599 --> 00:31:59.160
the opposite of that is like the creative liver, like

507
00:31:59.279 --> 00:32:03.279
spring sea, like abundance, blossoming. So to get into that

508
00:32:03.440 --> 00:32:07.359
space to help balance, you know, because like we're always

509
00:32:07.359 --> 00:32:09.920
looking for ballads amongst so you can if you're in

510
00:32:09.960 --> 00:32:12.079
one spot, stuck in one spot, just look to the

511
00:32:12.160 --> 00:32:16.319
opposite area, you know, and like feed in some of

512
00:32:16.359 --> 00:32:19.720
those qualities. I don't know if you feel like.

513
00:32:21.759 --> 00:32:26.759
Get put into five elements, but I think that there's

514
00:32:27.000 --> 00:32:31.480
you feel, you feel the anger, you feel that liver,

515
00:32:32.160 --> 00:32:34.200
and so I think you can kind of compartmentalize them

516
00:32:34.200 --> 00:32:37.599
into like, you know elements. Here's the grief, you know,

517
00:32:37.680 --> 00:32:43.519
I hear it, you feel it inside, you feel their grief, Yeah.

518
00:32:43.480 --> 00:32:46.119
Or you like an artist, like a paint painting or something,

519
00:32:46.160 --> 00:32:47.240
you can sense.

520
00:32:47.000 --> 00:32:49.839
That, Like, well, that's the thing that music too. It's

521
00:32:49.880 --> 00:32:54.240
a full sensory experience. It's not just the music, it's

522
00:32:54.279 --> 00:32:57.960
a full century. In fact, when I was in college

523
00:32:58.079 --> 00:33:03.000
taking a music class, they said the way to write

524
00:33:03.039 --> 00:33:06.599
a hit song is to appeal to all types of people.

525
00:33:06.839 --> 00:33:12.279
And to expand on that, the song must appeal to auditory, visual,

526
00:33:12.519 --> 00:33:15.480
and kinesthetic people. And if you can hit all three

527
00:33:15.519 --> 00:33:19.839
of those people, you basically hit everybody, you know, everybody

528
00:33:19.960 --> 00:33:20.559
has that.

529
00:33:21.200 --> 00:33:23.960
You know, your heart beat, you know, and so if

530
00:33:24.000 --> 00:33:26.519
you can get people to feel a beat and real

531
00:33:26.519 --> 00:33:29.039
they feel it in their hearts, and I feel like

532
00:33:29.039 --> 00:33:31.000
you're likely to get them to really enjoy that song.

533
00:33:32.000 --> 00:33:34.160
Yeah, are that like kinesthetic part when you know the

534
00:33:34.160 --> 00:33:37.160
beat's going to drop or you know that there's like

535
00:33:37.160 --> 00:33:41.359
like just.

536
00:33:40.000 --> 00:33:40.559
How about that?

537
00:33:40.799 --> 00:33:45.480
At the Danny Wimmer festivals, this one included, they have

538
00:33:46.960 --> 00:33:51.720
basically somebody there doing ASL and they have a group

539
00:33:51.759 --> 00:33:55.960
of people that are there for it. And when they're

540
00:33:56.000 --> 00:33:59.079
doing the ASL, it's not they're not just saying the words,

541
00:33:59.119 --> 00:34:03.400
they're saying the sounds.

542
00:34:02.079 --> 00:34:04.440
Yeah, and feeling.

543
00:34:04.680 --> 00:34:09.280
And so those people that are watching the ASL are

544
00:34:09.320 --> 00:34:13.000
still feeling the same music that we are. That can

545
00:34:13.159 --> 00:34:16.360
act physically hear it and they.

546
00:34:16.280 --> 00:34:19.480
Can actually kind of feel vibrations through their bodies. Right,

547
00:34:19.559 --> 00:34:22.760
So you can experience music the way that we are.

548
00:34:22.760 --> 00:34:26.679
We just don't really recognize all the time exactly. Oh

549
00:34:26.840 --> 00:34:27.880
pretty neat?

550
00:34:28.599 --> 00:34:32.000
Okay, Yeah, about what's that?

551
00:34:32.800 --> 00:34:34.440
We all the mash bid and music.

552
00:34:35.719 --> 00:34:39.079
Yeah, I think we've proven that metals the best music

553
00:34:39.199 --> 00:34:40.159
during this show.

554
00:34:40.039 --> 00:34:43.000
Definitely up there, definitely up there.

555
00:34:43.920 --> 00:34:50.280
It's definitely been some good therapy over the years. Yeah,

556
00:34:50.320 --> 00:34:53.400
I was kind of reminded of you know, Masorrow Emoto.

557
00:34:54.000 --> 00:34:57.960
He does like the water crystals. Yeah, okay, the water

558
00:34:58.039 --> 00:35:02.239
guy and I wrote he wrote music, you know, for

559
00:35:02.360 --> 00:35:06.119
each of these like emotions too. So if you're feeling

560
00:35:06.440 --> 00:35:08.440
one way, you can listen to this. I mean it's

561
00:35:08.519 --> 00:35:13.039
kind of like classical and like, how about how about this?

562
00:35:14.280 --> 00:35:14.840
What's that?

563
00:35:15.079 --> 00:35:18.880
Metallica has their own brand of whiskey, and the way

564
00:35:19.000 --> 00:35:25.880
they made the whiskey is basically there are different tastes

565
00:35:26.400 --> 00:35:29.400
the you know, the tastes of the whiskey. However they

566
00:35:29.519 --> 00:35:33.920
word it based on what Metallica song you listen to.

567
00:35:34.880 --> 00:35:37.639
Yes, I love it.

568
00:35:38.400 --> 00:35:39.239
That's brilliant.

569
00:35:39.840 --> 00:35:45.559
Say so it's like I want to Ride the Lightning. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

570
00:35:45.639 --> 00:35:49.760
And they do these tastings and you'll have headphones on

571
00:35:49.880 --> 00:35:53.280
and they'll play the song it and the different notes

572
00:35:53.440 --> 00:35:57.159
of the whiskey come out based on the notes in

573
00:35:57.199 --> 00:35:57.639
the song.

574
00:35:58.760 --> 00:36:02.519
You bet that, Hey, the two spuds our heart.

575
00:36:03.480 --> 00:36:06.239
Yeah, that's right. And the tone, which is kind of

576
00:36:06.800 --> 00:36:11.159
you know, correlates with the fact that love joy you

577
00:36:11.239 --> 00:36:16.519
tend to sometimes use your tongue. So that's kind of interesting.

578
00:36:17.840 --> 00:36:19.559
Sometimes the tongue shows up.

579
00:36:20.000 --> 00:36:24.920
Sure sometimes and then sexual saliva right of the kidney.

580
00:36:25.039 --> 00:36:27.719
So there's that, you know, now you got my attention.

581
00:36:28.480 --> 00:36:30.599
Yeah, I think that's really interesting.

582
00:36:31.920 --> 00:36:35.920
Tongue and then sexual saliva. I'm there, huh.

583
00:36:36.239 --> 00:36:38.519
And it's when you kiss somebody for the first time,

584
00:36:38.559 --> 00:36:42.559
you have this different reaction of the mouth and I

585
00:36:42.639 --> 00:36:46.079
believe jer put up the kidney right the sexual saliva,

586
00:36:46.760 --> 00:36:51.119
and I think it's called tah And typically you only

587
00:36:51.119 --> 00:36:56.639
get yes, but it only happens like maybe a few

588
00:36:56.679 --> 00:37:04.800
times the first time encounter or a first time partner. Yeah,

589
00:37:06.039 --> 00:37:10.280
you know, like.

590
00:37:08.480 --> 00:37:12.360
The idea of like, you know, the one true love

591
00:37:12.519 --> 00:37:16.480
or the one that got away or something like that.

592
00:37:16.679 --> 00:37:18.960
I wonder if there's some kind of connection there. You know,

593
00:37:19.039 --> 00:37:19.679
you'll never.

594
00:37:20.639 --> 00:37:24.119
Right, there's that chemical kind of chemistry that everyone.

595
00:37:23.760 --> 00:37:26.519
Talked about, yeah, because it's almost like like when you

596
00:37:26.599 --> 00:37:28.960
have I mean, I don't know from personal experience, but

597
00:37:29.039 --> 00:37:32.679
when you have, like deliver a child, you know, like

598
00:37:32.840 --> 00:37:36.559
your chemist or you're pregnant or something, or you form life,

599
00:37:36.639 --> 00:37:39.239
like your chemistry is different forever. So maybe the first

600
00:37:39.280 --> 00:37:41.239
time you experience love or the first time you have

601
00:37:41.280 --> 00:37:48.599
that taste, you know, it's like imprinted in your chemistry forever.

602
00:37:48.760 --> 00:37:51.039
And then are you just always trying to, like, you know,

603
00:37:51.480 --> 00:37:53.199
chase the drink speak.

604
00:37:53.119 --> 00:38:00.039
I can't get it? Yeah maybe, yeah, yeah, yeah. A

605
00:38:00.039 --> 00:38:01.400
lot of people are like, oh, I want to get

606
00:38:01.400 --> 00:38:03.440
that feeling again, and maybe then they'll just get more

607
00:38:03.440 --> 00:38:05.320
partners or new partners.

608
00:38:04.840 --> 00:38:09.760
Who know, Well, my first sexual experience was in the

609
00:38:09.880 --> 00:38:12.920
Charles Manson Cave, so that might be my problem.

610
00:38:13.199 --> 00:38:15.639
That's a great story. I feel like we need to

611
00:38:16.079 --> 00:38:17.440
take some time for that. Maybe.

612
00:38:17.480 --> 00:38:20.159
Hey, yeah, that's on the Adventures of right man.

613
00:38:20.760 --> 00:38:25.119
Okay, I got to check that out.

614
00:38:25.440 --> 00:38:27.639
I do have a question for you experts here.

615
00:38:30.039 --> 00:38:34.400
So we talk about the organs and so like in

616
00:38:34.480 --> 00:38:38.440
Western medicine. One of the things that really bothers me

617
00:38:38.559 --> 00:38:41.639
is how quick, more so now than ever, they are

618
00:38:41.679 --> 00:38:45.039
to take organs out of body or did they say

619
00:38:45.440 --> 00:38:47.679
the organ doesn't serve a purpose. Well, if it didn't

620
00:38:47.679 --> 00:38:49.920
serve a purpose, it wouldn't be there to begin with.

621
00:38:50.519 --> 00:38:53.559
So my question is is if you take an organ

622
00:38:53.639 --> 00:38:55.920
out of a body, like the spleen, that's a big

623
00:38:55.920 --> 00:38:58.559
one they take out quickly. Nowadays they take the gall

624
00:38:58.719 --> 00:39:00.920
ladder out like if you have the sniffles.

625
00:39:00.960 --> 00:39:02.360
They take the gallbladder out.

626
00:39:02.679 --> 00:39:06.800
And like cutting people's stomachs out and stuff like that.

627
00:39:07.360 --> 00:39:11.920
How does that affect your overall health? From a chot

628
00:39:12.119 --> 00:39:17.440
in traditional Chinese medicine perspective, if the organs that are

629
00:39:17.480 --> 00:39:22.440
working off of each other aren't there anymore, take it.

630
00:39:22.400 --> 00:39:23.360
Away, doctor gat.

631
00:39:23.719 --> 00:39:28.719
Okay, something will always have to do more work. Right,

632
00:39:29.320 --> 00:39:32.880
If the gold bladder is out, something else has to

633
00:39:32.920 --> 00:39:36.079
work harder to accommodate that. If this wing comes out,

634
00:39:36.079 --> 00:39:40.000
the liver takes up that job. As far as TTM

635
00:39:40.119 --> 00:39:45.719
is concerned, we're cutting through meridians, right if you're doing surgery, Yeah,

636
00:39:46.000 --> 00:39:49.840
you cut through an energetic kind of pathway. Yeah, and

637
00:39:49.880 --> 00:39:52.159
then you're putting it back together. But obviously it has

638
00:39:52.199 --> 00:39:55.679
to reattach and heal it well. So we kind of

639
00:39:55.679 --> 00:39:58.760
have to help the body say, okay, this is your attachment,

640
00:39:58.800 --> 00:40:01.519
this is where you're supposed to go. Oh. It's also

641
00:40:01.599 --> 00:40:05.679
very cold in operating rooms. So when you know you

642
00:40:05.760 --> 00:40:09.480
saw people up in your future done, all that cold

643
00:40:09.519 --> 00:40:13.320
air is inside this, so all the tissue is contracked up.

644
00:40:13.360 --> 00:40:17.199
It's very tight, it's cold, it's protective, and the blood's

645
00:40:17.239 --> 00:40:20.119
not flowing excessively which is I think why they do that,

646
00:40:20.559 --> 00:40:23.599
keep it cold so the blood doesn't likely to bleed

647
00:40:23.639 --> 00:40:26.519
out or direly yeah, the vessels.

648
00:40:27.360 --> 00:40:32.519
There's another reason too, because they do it in prisons too.

649
00:40:32.559 --> 00:40:37.840
By the way, cold is not contrary to popular believe,

650
00:40:38.079 --> 00:40:44.639
cold is not a proper environment for bacteria, viruses, okay,

651
00:40:44.719 --> 00:40:48.639
stuff like that. So like they do that so that

652
00:40:49.440 --> 00:40:53.320
not the bacteria won't get inside the body because it's

653
00:40:53.400 --> 00:40:57.239
so cold. Same reason in prisons, because there's a lack

654
00:40:57.320 --> 00:41:01.400
of medical tension. They keep it real cold so people

655
00:41:01.440 --> 00:41:02.760
aren't getting sick.

656
00:41:04.760 --> 00:41:07.360
Because your spleen actually produces more white blood cells when

657
00:41:07.360 --> 00:41:12.119
you're cold. And so just like cold therapies where they

658
00:41:12.159 --> 00:41:14.480
put the frozen powel break up to the neck, to

659
00:41:14.559 --> 00:41:17.480
the pewer and a lot of what that does it

660
00:41:17.599 --> 00:41:21.760
pulls blood from the major organs and forces it to recirculate.

661
00:41:22.320 --> 00:41:25.880
And our major organs hold blood when we're stressed, which

662
00:41:25.920 --> 00:41:29.880
is fairly often when our you know, sympathetic nervous system

663
00:41:29.920 --> 00:41:31.960
is working, which is you know, of course as all

664
00:41:32.000 --> 00:41:34.800
that stuff that people experience all the time every day,

665
00:41:35.599 --> 00:41:38.639
and so it forces it to recirculate, and then the

666
00:41:38.679 --> 00:41:41.519
spleen says okay, it's cold, let's make more white blood cells,

667
00:41:41.519 --> 00:41:44.000
so you're you're likely to have a better immune system

668
00:41:44.239 --> 00:41:47.440
if you're a little bit cold. Not like cold plunging.

669
00:41:47.519 --> 00:41:50.679
That's like a whole different thing. But definitely to be

670
00:41:51.239 --> 00:41:56.119
physically cold is to improve your immune system.

671
00:41:56.239 --> 00:42:00.960
So why Canadians are so hardy? Yeah?

672
00:42:01.000 --> 00:42:05.920
Well, and you know that the fallacy of flu season

673
00:42:06.440 --> 00:42:09.880
and cold season being during the winter. It's not because

674
00:42:09.920 --> 00:42:14.320
of winter, do either. You know what is the reason

675
00:42:14.400 --> 00:42:16.079
that people get sick that time of year?

676
00:42:17.760 --> 00:42:20.000
I mean, I think there's probably a lot of avenues

677
00:42:20.039 --> 00:42:22.239
for that, right, Do you have any ideas for you?

678
00:42:22.639 --> 00:42:26.800
I know, I know.

679
00:42:25.639 --> 00:42:30.920
There's two things. One is you have Thanksgiving and Christmas meals,

680
00:42:31.000 --> 00:42:35.480
which are basically a lot of bad over indulging of

681
00:42:35.559 --> 00:42:39.920
bad food in your body. On top of that, the

682
00:42:40.119 --> 00:42:43.559
ultimate stress that you have during that period of time

683
00:42:43.639 --> 00:42:46.000
more so than any other time of year. So that

684
00:42:46.400 --> 00:42:50.119
between the bad food and over indulging it and the stress,

685
00:42:50.199 --> 00:42:52.920
you weaken your immune system dramatically.

686
00:42:53.039 --> 00:42:54.440
And that's why we live here.

687
00:42:55.360 --> 00:42:58.840
Exposure to more people at the gathering too. Yeah, you

688
00:42:58.920 --> 00:43:01.159
know what it's a good I mean is that most

689
00:43:01.199 --> 00:43:04.320
of your immunity is in your bowels is in your

690
00:43:04.360 --> 00:43:08.119
GI tract. So the more food you have in your

691
00:43:08.159 --> 00:43:11.639
stomach or your body at any time, the less your

692
00:43:11.639 --> 00:43:14.400
immune system can work, which is why I think there's

693
00:43:15.159 --> 00:43:19.360
a lot of conditions where everything is at vomitating diarrhea,

694
00:43:19.639 --> 00:43:22.719
and the body purges itself of all the food stuff

695
00:43:22.800 --> 00:43:26.039
so that it can work harder for recovery or healing

696
00:43:26.119 --> 00:43:26.880
or something like that.

697
00:43:27.719 --> 00:43:31.400
Yeah, think of all the things, Yeah, go ahead.

698
00:43:32.119 --> 00:43:33.960
No, I was saying, think of all the things that

699
00:43:34.199 --> 00:43:37.559
here in the United States we eat on Thanksgiving, which

700
00:43:37.599 --> 00:43:40.159
are the same things you eat for Christmas dinner.

701
00:43:40.280 --> 00:43:41.400
If you celebrate that.

702
00:43:42.199 --> 00:43:45.960
They're all, like most of it the worst things for

703
00:43:46.000 --> 00:43:49.280
your body. And you're eating so much that you go

704
00:43:49.360 --> 00:43:53.199
into food coma with bad food.

705
00:43:53.199 --> 00:43:57.119
For your body. Sorry, Nicole, go ahead and say what you're.

706
00:43:56.960 --> 00:44:00.559
Doing saying, No, it's like the really good point and

707
00:44:00.800 --> 00:44:03.840
like a direct connection between like the physical body and

708
00:44:03.880 --> 00:44:07.039
the emotional body and how that can affect our overall

709
00:44:07.039 --> 00:44:09.760
well being. And you know, I would agree with you.

710
00:44:09.840 --> 00:44:13.199
We're coming into like like the holiday season can be

711
00:44:13.400 --> 00:44:17.320
quite a triggering time for people. And then and then

712
00:44:17.360 --> 00:44:20.719
on top of that, put it put all the holidays

713
00:44:20.760 --> 00:44:24.360
inside the metal element the metal season, which is already

714
00:44:24.360 --> 00:44:29.199
about emotional like you know, strength, resiliency and stuff like that.

715
00:44:29.320 --> 00:44:31.400
So if you don't have if you're not like really

716
00:44:31.639 --> 00:44:34.679
built up, but then it can be in trouble or

717
00:44:34.679 --> 00:44:37.440
even more troublesome. But when you notice when we're sick,

718
00:44:37.599 --> 00:44:39.599
when we have a cold or something like that, like

719
00:44:39.760 --> 00:44:43.239
we're very particular about what we bring into our body,

720
00:44:43.400 --> 00:44:46.360
Like you might not even want the taste of sugar

721
00:44:46.639 --> 00:44:49.079
or like you know, you can't, you can just eat

722
00:44:49.199 --> 00:44:54.039
very little. It's like being clean and clear, so it's

723
00:44:54.079 --> 00:44:56.360
as easy on the body to heal up. And I

724
00:44:56.360 --> 00:44:59.159
think that's the same with like the heart or the lungs.

725
00:44:59.719 --> 00:45:03.239
You know, if you're holding onto a lot of like emotions,

726
00:45:03.280 --> 00:45:05.920
there's not a lot of room for like growth. And

727
00:45:07.480 --> 00:45:09.840
I have lots of respect, you know, like everyone's journey

728
00:45:09.960 --> 00:45:12.760
is different and we process things differently. But the more

729
00:45:12.840 --> 00:45:16.519
space you can allow in like to help that stagnation

730
00:45:17.159 --> 00:45:20.360
is the better, right because I think the more emptiness

731
00:45:20.400 --> 00:45:23.960
we have we can, like that brings in more growth.

732
00:45:24.559 --> 00:45:28.199
You know, even just like cold cold is like contracting freezing,

733
00:45:28.599 --> 00:45:31.639
and then suddenly in that lack of movement, like your

734
00:45:31.639 --> 00:45:35.840
body is building more it's like, now we have room

735
00:45:36.000 --> 00:45:37.960
to build, you know.

736
00:45:40.679 --> 00:45:42.480
Okay, guess what now?

737
00:45:42.599 --> 00:45:44.320
Call as time is up?

738
00:45:45.000 --> 00:45:49.000
No, not yet, but we got we got four minutes lesson?

739
00:45:49.239 --> 00:45:51.159
Yeah too fast?

740
00:45:51.280 --> 00:45:53.639
What are we doing with four minutes? Are we going

741
00:45:53.719 --> 00:45:57.199
to say our favorite heartbreak songs? Or what are we doing?

742
00:45:58.239 --> 00:45:59.639
Are you going to sing for us?

743
00:46:00.679 --> 00:46:04.639
I'm curious. I'm curious to know what your favorite heartbreak

744
00:46:04.719 --> 00:46:08.239
song is or maybe what is your like guilty pleasure song?

745
00:46:09.880 --> 00:46:10.159
Mine?

746
00:46:11.400 --> 00:46:15.239
Tell me both of you, anybody everyone?

747
00:46:15.840 --> 00:46:16.480
I like it.

748
00:46:16.519 --> 00:46:20.199
I can immediately tell you my heartbreaks not heartbreak song,

749
00:46:20.239 --> 00:46:25.719
but about heartbreak that goes with this show because it's

750
00:46:26.519 --> 00:46:29.079
because of the lyrics. But can you feel my heart

751
00:46:29.440 --> 00:46:31.039
by bringing me to the horizon?

752
00:46:32.440 --> 00:46:34.199
Okay, I don't know if I know that. I'm going

753
00:46:34.280 --> 00:46:35.000
to look it up.

754
00:46:35.840 --> 00:46:37.639
You got to read the lyrics of it.

755
00:46:38.559 --> 00:46:41.199
And one of the best lyrics of all times is

756
00:46:41.239 --> 00:46:46.760
in that song, in my opinion, and it's basically, I

757
00:46:46.800 --> 00:46:52.039
can't drown my demons. They know how to swim love.

758
00:46:52.360 --> 00:46:55.519
Okay, to check it out. So curious, Dean, maybe we'll

759
00:46:55.519 --> 00:46:58.079
have to get into this like another time. But what

760
00:46:58.119 --> 00:46:59.000
does that mean to you?

761
00:46:59.320 --> 00:46:59.480
Like?

762
00:46:59.559 --> 00:47:04.679
What what pulls you towards that. What do you relate

763
00:47:04.719 --> 00:47:05.480
to you about.

764
00:47:05.199 --> 00:47:07.480
That, that lyric or the whole song.

765
00:47:08.519 --> 00:47:10.199
Yeah, the lyric, any of it.

766
00:47:10.599 --> 00:47:12.400
The lyric because it is true.

767
00:47:12.639 --> 00:47:18.039
Like you know, people misunderstand people like me or males

768
00:47:18.079 --> 00:47:23.239
in general, as we're like just you know, brushing the

769
00:47:23.280 --> 00:47:27.559
feelings aside. That's not what we're doing, okay, because you

770
00:47:27.639 --> 00:47:33.639
really can't drown your that's not healthy. Drowning your feelings,

771
00:47:33.679 --> 00:47:37.400
your trauma, your any of that stuff. That's not healthy.

772
00:47:37.880 --> 00:47:41.320
And that's not what people love to think. And I've

773
00:47:41.360 --> 00:47:44.559
had stuff said to me before burying yourself in work

774
00:47:44.679 --> 00:47:47.519
or doing that is drowning your feelings.

775
00:47:47.639 --> 00:47:48.280
No, it's not.

776
00:47:49.079 --> 00:47:53.679
It's it's stopping yourself from over obsessing about your feelings.

777
00:47:53.719 --> 00:47:57.159
There's a huge difference. That's why you're bringing the baggage

778
00:47:57.199 --> 00:47:59.079
back home with you when you go out the door,

779
00:47:59.480 --> 00:48:03.480
so you can feel your feelings. You're not drowning them

780
00:48:04.039 --> 00:48:08.599
because they're gonna resurface if you try to drown them,

781
00:48:08.960 --> 00:48:13.039
they're gonna swim up to the surface. And that's why

782
00:48:13.079 --> 00:48:18.440
I think that lyric is so brilliant because it's just

783
00:48:19.599 --> 00:48:23.920
it says it all in a few words.

784
00:48:24.920 --> 00:48:28.719
Mm hmm. No, that makes sense to think that people

785
00:48:28.800 --> 00:48:31.920
stuff stuffed their emotions down in many ways, whether it

786
00:48:32.000 --> 00:48:38.239
be like through food or drinking, smoking, you know a

787
00:48:38.400 --> 00:48:42.440
variety of other things that release, you know, that dopamine

788
00:48:42.480 --> 00:48:45.480
hit or some kind of anything other than feeling that

789
00:48:45.480 --> 00:48:47.159
physical pain.

790
00:48:49.119 --> 00:48:51.639
So what's your what's yours? Nicole?

791
00:48:52.880 --> 00:48:54.440
Oh, I want to hear. I want to hear. I

792
00:48:54.480 --> 00:48:55.480
want to hear Frankies.

793
00:48:57.039 --> 00:49:03.519
Okay, I love love songs, Descendants, Cammeage.

794
00:49:03.960 --> 00:49:05.159
I knew that's where you were.

795
00:49:05.000 --> 00:49:10.119
Going that heartbreak song Foreigner. I want to know what

796
00:49:10.199 --> 00:49:17.039
love is classic? So good? Definitely Okay, I will I'm

797
00:49:17.039 --> 00:49:19.480
not without thinking deeply about it.

798
00:49:20.320 --> 00:49:24.559
Yeah, the Descendants were at riot Fest.

799
00:49:25.320 --> 00:49:28.280
I know I wanted to be at all of those things,

800
00:49:28.400 --> 00:49:30.239
including after Shock, which I'm.

801
00:49:30.920 --> 00:49:34.039
I wish I could go to get on the plane.

802
00:49:35.239 --> 00:49:37.239
Let's see see.

803
00:49:39.239 --> 00:49:42.639
That means I'm not going.

804
00:49:43.559 --> 00:49:45.679
We'll be coming Wars of Sacramento.

805
00:49:46.719 --> 00:49:47.559
Oh, I can't wait.

806
00:49:48.199 --> 00:49:51.199
Did you talk about this Touxedo t Shirty tell us

807
00:49:51.239 --> 00:49:52.559
the story.

808
00:49:52.599 --> 00:49:58.280
Well avoided her songs.

809
00:49:59.039 --> 00:50:03.480
Yeah, that's okay. You weren't ready for that. We're ready

810
00:50:03.480 --> 00:50:03.880
for a song.

811
00:50:04.039 --> 00:50:06.000
All I think about when I look at you is

812
00:50:06.039 --> 00:50:07.119
like dream Weaver.

813
00:50:09.400 --> 00:50:14.840
Class I thought she was going to say, like closer

814
00:50:14.880 --> 00:50:17.840
to heart, because unless it's a rush song, like, it

815
00:50:17.880 --> 00:50:18.519
doesn't matter.

816
00:50:19.000 --> 00:50:19.880
She loves.

817
00:50:21.119 --> 00:50:24.039
So are you going to tell the testedo story or no.

818
00:50:24.199 --> 00:50:27.360
Well one, what we got for time here or over?

819
00:50:28.159 --> 00:50:29.119
I guess we'll have to have.

820
00:50:29.079 --> 00:50:31.079
You all right, quickly tell the story?

821
00:50:31.800 --> 00:50:35.119
Okay, oh okay, now it's on the spot. Okay, Well,

822
00:50:35.320 --> 00:50:37.199
I mean this is just a funny little story of

823
00:50:37.280 --> 00:50:44.400
like you know, you yeah, practically, yeah, we go into

824
00:50:44.400 --> 00:50:47.440
the hospital for practical you know, and we've got this,

825
00:50:48.400 --> 00:50:52.400
we've got this like profession exchange student, not exchange student,

826
00:50:52.480 --> 00:50:55.079
but she was like foreign student and who was just

827
00:50:55.280 --> 00:50:58.119
very new like and I mean to have us as

828
00:50:58.199 --> 00:51:01.519
friends and colleagues, you know, maybe there was like a

829
00:51:02.000 --> 00:51:07.199
bit of an extreme like example of how people live.

830
00:51:08.840 --> 00:51:11.519
But you know, we would will go out, like you know,

831
00:51:11.639 --> 00:51:13.599
to the on the town, like just with this or

832
00:51:13.639 --> 00:51:15.840
the fake mustache or something and just have fun. But

833
00:51:16.239 --> 00:51:18.480
you know, we're in this professional setting of a hospital,

834
00:51:18.519 --> 00:51:21.039
and like she shows up a little bit late wearing

835
00:51:21.079 --> 00:51:24.960
a tuxedo T shirt and it just like you know,

836
00:51:25.119 --> 00:51:27.760
sometimes I didn't tell the story of her well, but

837
00:51:27.840 --> 00:51:28.159
it was.

838
00:51:29.079 --> 00:51:31.920
Realize that that was not an appropriate place.

839
00:51:31.840 --> 00:51:36.440
To read questions. Were you both wearing the tuxedo T.

840
00:51:36.480 --> 00:51:38.719
Shirt and we were in lab jackets and we were

841
00:51:38.760 --> 00:51:44.199
behaving very well because if you were grasp the concept

842
00:51:44.239 --> 00:51:48.199
of uh, you know, time and place at that time.

843
00:51:49.039 --> 00:51:52.000
Yeah, because if you were both wearing the shirts, you

844
00:51:52.039 --> 00:51:53.880
would have been the talk of the party.

845
00:51:53.960 --> 00:51:56.159
We would have had them under our lab jackets, probably have.

846
00:51:56.199 --> 00:52:01.599
Been like yeah, yeah, like like incognito, incognito and professional.

847
00:52:02.480 --> 00:52:05.320
What is it like? What does it say? There's that

848
00:52:05.360 --> 00:52:08.679
like Ricky Bobby or whatever. He's like, I like, you know,

849
00:52:09.480 --> 00:52:12.039
I imagine Baby Jesus wearing a texedo T shirt.

850
00:52:13.639 --> 00:52:15.679
All right, well, Ricky Bobby and the show.

851
00:52:16.800 --> 00:52:18.840
Yeah, okay, we got to go. Thank you so much

852
00:52:18.880 --> 00:52:22.519
for joining us today. I was insightful and a pleasure

853
00:52:22.599 --> 00:52:25.280
having you with us. And my heart is happy. And

854
00:52:26.079 --> 00:52:30.400
I hope everyone just dances through life to the good,

855
00:52:30.400 --> 00:52:35.079
the bad, the ugly and the blessings. And I guess

856
00:52:35.079 --> 00:52:37.239
that's it. Any final words. Check out pipe Man's show

857
00:52:37.280 --> 00:52:40.519
Avengers of pipe Man on Wednesday's one pm Eastern Time

858
00:52:40.920 --> 00:52:43.159
on W four see why and.

859
00:52:43.119 --> 00:52:46.719
The other final words should be. Make sure to tune

860
00:52:46.760 --> 00:52:51.000
into Language of Healing every week at the same time Tuesday,

861
00:52:51.360 --> 00:52:55.800
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862
00:52:55.840 --> 00:52:58.559
Women for Women Network Roll it one.

863
00:52:59.119 --> 00:52:59.679
There we go.

864
00:53:00.320 --> 00:53:03.599
Wow, what a show today, and the journey does not

865
00:53:03.760 --> 00:53:07.480
stop here. Come travel the world with Nicole every Tuesday

866
00:53:07.480 --> 00:53:11.039
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867
00:53:11.159 --> 00:53:15.039
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868
00:53:15.239 --> 00:53:18.079
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